Ep. 2 Maria Runyon | Combining GNM with other Modalities for Eczema, Postpartum Depression, and More

In this powerful episode, we sit down with a practitioner of German New Medicine who shares her inspiring journey of healing from postpartum depression, anxiety, and her son’s eczema symptoms. Through a combination of German New Medicine, Miasmic Homeopathy, Bio Energetic Testing, Somatic Inquiry, and more, she has not only transformed her own health but also supports her clients on their path to healing.

Discover how integrating these holistic tools empowers individuals to find the root causes of their symptoms and achieve lasting wellness. Whether you're seeking hope, healing, or simply curious about alternative healing modalities, this conversation offers valuable insights and inspiration for those navigating their own health challenges.

Join us as we explore the transformative power of German New Medicine and other holistic practices that nurture the mind, body, and spirit.

Transcript:

Ellen: Hello and welcome to the German New Medicine Collective podcast. This is Ellen. I am here to speak with Maria Runyon. She is one of our practitioners in our collective. Um, she is featured not only on our website, if you are looking for practitioners to work with from a German New Medicine lens, she's also featured in our social media page.

Ellen: And also if, um, she's. Hosted in our collective. So we have a mighty network space that is membership based. And if. You're looking to interact with our practitioners, get to know them, maybe ask them questions. The member space is a great place for that. And today we will just be talking to Maria about her approach to Derma New Medicine along with the other tools that she uses and the work that she does with clients.

Ellen: And Maria Runyon is the founder of Root Cause Energetics and a dedicated integrative health practitioner, specializing in combining personalized bioenergetic testing with German New Medicine and miasmic homeopathy. With advanced training in modalities such as GNM, emotion code, somatic inquiry, metaphysical anatomy, kinesiology, and functional medicine.

Ellen: Maria takes a fully holistic approach to uncovering the true root causes of illness and physical ailments. Her journey into GNM began as a personal quest to help her son heal from chronic eczema. Leading her to discover the transformative principles of GNM and the profound connections between psyche, brain, organ.

Ellen: Today, Maria combines her expertise with her compassionate, supportive approach to empower clients and families to address not only their physical symptoms, but also the emotional and energetic imbalances that underline them. Maria is passionate about guiding others on their own healing journeys.

Ellen: fostering hope, connection, and long lasting change. Welcome to the show, Maria. It's so nice to have you.

Maria: Thank you so much, Alan. Thank you for the introduction. And, uh, I just want to say, I'm really honored to be here and, uh, to have this chance to share my story and the work that I'm so passionate about and, uh, I really appreciate what you have built here with the collective, uh, With Sarah, because I feel like, uh, there was a much needed, uh, space where, uh, people who love G and M and they can come together and learn and create, um, a safe space to support feel supported and connected. Um, and thank you so much for putting all this together. If it's all

Ellen: Yeah, it's, it's such a, it's, it's been really cool to, um, just kind of like intuitively tap into the need here. I think that both Sarah and I found in our own. search and desire to learn about German New Medicine, that there weren't really a lot of resources. And so for people who are maybe new to German New Medicine and want to learn about it, want to kind of maybe interact with people who know this body of knowledge well, um, we were just really excited to kind of create something in order, kind of to create a container in order for that to take place.

Ellen: So, um, I think you were the first. Practitioner to join our collective and we are just so happy to have you and I'm really excited to kind of dive into your own story and what brought you to German New Medicine. Um, so yeah, I would love to hear a little bit about you, um, and what brought you to German New Medicine, kind of your story into how you found this tool.

Maria: Um, yeah, so when journey to German new medicine and how I found it, it's not really straightforward, but I'm going to try to summarize it as much as I can. Uh, it wasn't really a lot of at first sight. So that's why I feel like there's a lot of resistance, a lot of deconditioning that has to happen for someone to kind of Embody this, uh, wisdom that Dr hammer has built and there's just so much, uh, that can, uh, influence the way we see things.

Maria: So, um, my journey, um, story basically started when I was born in Europe. So, um, I grew up in a small town in

Ellen: Silence.

Maria: sense, we already embodied a lot of things that Dr.

Maria: Helmer was teaching. And, um, We weren't aware of it. Obviously, it wasn't a conscious thing. And like many families, we also carried our unresolved conflicts and things. And when my brother and I grew up, my mom became very connected to the holistic living. And about 15 years ago, she discovered GNM. And, um, she dove very deeply into the GNM community in Hungary and, um, she would take every opportunity to share it with me. And at the time I was living, um, in a different country, I was living in Spain and, um, I was in my early twenties and I really appreciated her passion. It wasn't really a place where I can embrace it myself. I didn't really have health symptoms. I wasn't really in deep. The need for GNM to really connect and click in. So, um, I was more focused on personal development and diet and natural approaches, and it just wasn't on my radar. So, uh, then, um, there was a big shift when I met my, um, now husband, uh, which is a crazy story, but I'm not going to go into it. It's, uh, shortly after we met, we got pregnant, um, and I had my daughter.

Maria: We decided to settle in the U S. um, not long after we had our son, and that's when, uh, things started to really spiral out of control for me, um, or for us. And my son developed this chronic, eczema that skin conditions. And, um, at the same time I was dealing with, um, postpartum depression, suicidal thoughts and a lot of, um, isolation, disconnection, anxiety. And, um, I just didn't have the mental and emotional capacity, uh, to handle anything holistic that, um. Requires my involvement involvement. So I completely shut out everything. And I was like, I didn't have the support or the community to kind of help me to deal with things on a holistic level. And so we started following the specialists.

Maria: The allergist dermatologist recommendations, which meant obviously going, um, with medication medications like steroid creams. in the hindsight, I, I, I really understand now how the lens of G and M and everything that I learned in the, uh, through the path, uh, how. Things went downhill so quickly and, um, all these food allergies and, and, and sensitivities and, and everything that, um, my son developed over the time and became, everything became a trigger for him.

Maria: So we tried to keep him in a bubble to completely shield him from the world to kind of like stop the flare ups and trying to gain control. But, uh, I felt completely helpless and desperate in the same time. So it was a very traumatic journey for me. And when he was, uh, about 2 years old, um, I stumbled across something called topical steroid withdrawal, which is, um, connected to, um, the steroids and how it use and how the body becomes dependent on it. And it felt like a lightning struck me because I was like, Oh, my God, what am I doing? I, I, I, have to find some natural way to heal. And I wasn't sure what was the answer yet at the time, but I knew. It existed, I was always brought up in a way that, you know, solution is out there. You just have to find it. And, um, uh, so we took him off the meds and he was spiraling out of control, um, rebound symptoms. It was pure hell. It was, uh, there was no sleeping for maybe I slept like 1 hour a night for, don't know how many months, uh, just to chop down. Stop him from trying to, like, rip himself apart you know, bleed and, and, uh, in the same time when he was sleeping for a few hours, I was desperately researching and trying to find out what was happening and, um, at the same time, my mom from, you know, Europe was trying to really push G and M on me.

Maria: Like, this is a separation conflict. You gotta resolve it. And I was, I was, I just felt so much resistance to it because partially I wasn't ready to accept that something, some of this situation might have connected to my own emotional disconnection and how I unintentionally sabotaged his journey to heal. And, um, So I tried, uh, also things like sleep training and and to get some rest because I was, like, truly desperate for for, you know, kind of a break with the mental conditions and emotional conditions that I was in and looking back, I can see how everything impacted him on a very deep level, but I was just very resistance to the various is resistant to do my own work with it. And, um, so the, this, um, And I also struggled with the way how GNM was presented to me, um, not just from my mom, but from wherever I turned. It was, uh, from like the hardcore GNM communities, because like a few years ago, there wasn't so much talk about it. I feel like it got the hype in the last couple of years. And, um, uh, there was just the true hardcore GNM people, uh, saying that, Conflicts are like they were presenting conflicts very back black and white. Like you have eczema separation conflict done. Go ahead. Resolve it. Do this. Do that. And then, um, Surrender to it or just shift your perception and I feel like it wasn't resonating with me at the time and it was technically true and I could see how that is a thing, but it was see I wasn't able to connect the dots in my situation, so I felt there wasn't enough focus of, you know, offering solution or, uh, guiding people toward this, uh, self realization that, you know, that is so necessary to resolve the conflict. And, um, um, So, I wasn't able to understand the, like, the what, the why, the how, the, the, the, what do I do or not do? And, uh, the, like, it's, it's all has to come together. And, um, at that point, so I didn't have the guidance. I didn't have the energy. So I completely blocked that out and, uh, put it on the back burner.

Maria: It was somewhere there on my radar, but it wasn't simply what I was, you know, Resonating with or aligned with at the time. So I went down different rabbit holes and I, I became an integrative practitioner and I learned how to interpret the functional meds and the lab, the lab results and, and things like that.

Maria: So like, Oh, let's test your blood. Let's let's just test your hair. Let's test your poop. Let's test everything. And, um, um, I focused on overgrowths, parasites, um, detoxes, um, imbalances, everything that you can think of just to, like, kind of find the answer. And, um, I studied kinesiology with Dr.

Maria: Klinghart, and it really opened my eyes a little bit, but it felt like it was still stuck in the same kind of thinking, in the same kind of paradigm. And from there, I got into bionigetic testing and became an emotion code practitioner, which was awesome. life changing because it really opened up a lot. And then when I finally studied my asthmatic homeopathy, um, I, it's like GNM started to click and everything was just puzzle pieces were coming together, and these last things like the emotion code and the myosomatic homeopathy and the bioenergetic testing, they all opened the door for me to truly the bigger picture and the GNM and how it fits into it.

Maria: So. Once I fully integrated GNN into my understanding, that's when everything has shifted for me and for my family and for my son. And I did all the courses. I read all the publications. I also speak German. So it was a little bit easier. I went to high school in Germany. So it really came in handy. Now I know like everything happens for a reason because I could read and study the materials that are not translated to English yet. So was very helpful to kind of gain that knowledge and and see how it really puts it comes together. And I was able to make sense of the challenges for ourselves and create the perception shifts. Not just for me, but for my entire family and having, you know, the, the, the bio energetic testing piece was kind of. Muscle testing and all that into it. It was really just, you know, to help to gain that trust within me and within my my son and with with everything that it is what their subconscious is asking. Like, we're doing the right things. And then my son can. cleared up, obviously it was kind of explained in German medicine, but it's, it was, it had to go deeper than just, yeah, okay, we separated now we are together.

Maria: Let's skin to skin and let's do this. Like it had to go like very deep into the subconscious in order for him to move past certain things. And it all started with our connection to like, our connection had to heal and, and come into a different level. And my depression has lifted completely and my relationship with my daughter improved and my marriage, was kind of on a brink with all the, uh, that we faced, um, that completely transformed and, uh, it was we, we, we came. So basically different people all over, um, with, with, in a pretty short period of time, which was fascinating to live through, and it was a magical transformation. And, um, this whole understanding also transformed the way I work with my clients. I had a practice that grew word of mouth, uh, for years and it was very fulfilling.

Maria: But now that I use, uh, GNM in my practice as well, it's combining like bioinjury testing homeopathy emotional release and helps to really uncover the conflicts and create a clear pathway for the person to heal. And everybody is so unique and individual and everything is all individualized.

Maria: So it requires. It requires a lot of participation and willingness and openness from a person to really go deep, which goes totally against what we are conditioned to believe when we see a practitioner. We just, you know, want to have the path to follow and that's it. And, but we really, just like I was in the beginning, I wasn't ready to really embark on this journey and face the underlying things that are all making sense and connected. So in order to create. Those shifts, we kind of have to sit with the uncomfortable and, um, that's where the shifts happen. So it's, uh, it's been really amazing to, to be part of this whole journey and, to see that everything is, uh, uh, connected, not just physically, but emotionally, energetically, and, and, and I, I can help people to gain that deeper understanding and reach that resolution. And, um, I love what I do and I'm in awe when I run a scan and then when someone reaches out and I get to embark on their journey and and in one way or another, some people come on a full journey and some people just we cross paths and then there's just a brief explanation or a brief conversation and it just really opens up for them.

Maria: And it's just such a fulfilling experience. So, Yeah, well, pretty much this is, this is my story I

Ellen: Wow.

Maria: am, um, you know, fascinated with it and it wasn't a straight path. And that's why I feel like it's so important to say, like, GNM doesn't click for everyone at the 1st, it's not love at first sight and, um, for us to, like, truly understand and, and, and, um, embody this wisdom that Dr.

Maria: Homer brought in, For us, uh, it's, it's like, we have to reach that kind of, uh, understanding of everything.

Ellen: Wow. Thank you so much for sharing all of that. And it seems as though it was a very personal journey for you to embark on initially in order for this to really open up to something that you not only embody, but are able to translate and offer to the people The people that you work with. Um, and it's, it's just interesting as someone, um, who has been in the kind of the healthcare world for the last 10 years or so, um, I've just noticed, yeah, this, this disconnect between.

Ellen: you know, what's happening, whether it be like eczema for someone who's dealing with a skin condition or really any type of disease process or symptomology that's that's surfacing. Um, this, this piece of, of like what's happening with the psyche is something that I've just been very fascinated about. And I think it's led me to German new medicine.

Ellen: Um, But yeah, I could see how for a lot of people approaching Germany medicine, it can feel intimidating. It can feel challenging to like be, be ready and aligned to really receive the information. Um, and so, yeah, I'm curious whenever you're working with clients. What are some of the, the hurdles that you experience with them or, or kind of like the, the unlocking that takes place in order for them to be receptive to tools like German new medicine or, um, the emotional release techniques or, um, anything that's really, it sounds like you have a very, very Um, like holistic approach.

Ellen: You're kind of considering all of these different facets of, um, of healing, but I'm curious, just, yeah, like how, how do you work with someone in order to kind of get them in the right mind frame to be receptive to a tool like German new medicine?

Maria: Um, yes, so that's a very good question. Uh, and I feel like there is, we all come from, with a different background. We all come from a, a, a soup of knowledge that we have acquired over the years and, uh, uh, when it comes to German new medicine, it can be a very, um, of the box for a lot of people. But so is. Bioenergetic testing, like, there's, there's so many modalities, especially when it comes to how emotions impact the body and it kind of we put up a wall with how we were conditioned with allopathic medicine and how we. Solely focus on physiology and nothing else, and we are not taking it into account that there is other forces.

Maria: There is other things that are deeply impactful for us. So, um. When everybody when someone comes to me with a different background with a different kind of knowledge. Um, first of all, I believe that we all resonate towards each other for a reason. Uh, and and I believe that the people who come to me are somewhat ready to, um, kind of receive what I, what I give maybe not fully, but it's 1st step for their. Uh, journey to open their eyes to other things. So I don't really push German new medicine on anyone because I know that I had my own resistance to it when I first came, came with it. So I kind of just put it out there. The way I work with clients is always individualized. So it doesn't matter if someone has a background in German medicine or knows anything about it, or doesn't know anything about it.

Maria: So if someone comes to me with a very solid, rigid, um, background in, uh, Germs pause disease and this is what happens and they want to use bioenergetic testing to kind of show what is going on. I can show that yes, X, Y, Z resonates on the testing, but here is why. And that is

Ellen: Hmm.

Maria: that a lot of people are not able to, uh, voice or interpret. Uh, because they, they don't have that cover, like every base covered and in that sense, like when it comes to, uh, my asthmatic homeopathy, I'm not sure if, uh, the listeners or, or the people who are tuning into this podcast know much about it, but it also is. something similar to what G and M practices. So it goes back into certain emotional patterns and and things like that that have been maybe passed down from generations and have been impacting the person's journey.

Maria: So it's patterns that are, that we are able to pick up on from the subconscious because that's what bioenergy testing is so we, we can translate that to the person and, um, and bring them to where they need to be at this present moment in order to move forward on their journey. So, it's really, you know, depends on where the person is and that's how feel like the approach has to be taken with, um, with everyone.

Ellen: Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, I would love to hear also a little bit more about my asthmatic homeopathy and, um, kind of how it, how it complements germanew medicine. Cause I, I've, I've been exposed to some homeopathy, but I, I would love to learn a little bit more about, um, its significance in the work that you do.

Maria: Yeah, so, uh, it, it all, uh, connects when, uh, certain, um, It's a kind of complex subject, so we can open a totally different podcast for it if you were open, or we could just connect outside of it and see how it really goes deeper. But to kind of briefly summarize how it connects, it's basically to. What I said before, it just shows those underlying patterns that let's say a remedy comes up on during the testing process.

Maria: And instead of looking at the remedy from classical homeopathy perspective, where you, where you, where you're saying, like, this remedy is used for headaches or nerve pain or, um, digestive issues. We're looking at one step deeper where what is the remedy addressing more on the emotional level? What is the remedy for when on a psychological psychosomatic level and that is very fascinating because the people who? Studied this so it's not just me making it up there's there are people who studied this and they had the provings done and they had all these kind of Um, uh, examples and experiences with that. On a large amount of people, they documented it so we can study how, how, um, this is really, um, what the remedy embodies on a deeper level.

Maria: So when it, when it comes up, I can see that. And then, uh, also with the GNM knowledge, there is certain body parts, organs and systems that come up, uh, Out of balance, so that points us to a conflict and also, uh, it could it could be seen through the testing, whether if it's an active conflict or a healing phase conflict.

Maria: And then we can dive deeper with somatic inquiry, which is also something I use in my practice to kind of like, really formulate those questions that help the. Person to open up and gain a new perspective and have those aha moments and have those, uh, those things. So with everything combined with the deeper understanding of this homeopathy pattern that they resonated with, and then all the other things that they, they, they have shown and shared as well on their intake form.

Maria: But I really, I could do the whole testing and translating process without an intake form. It just gains more. Um, Clarity when there is a little bit of context for me, and then when we have a consultation with my clients after the testing, it's really where, um, things. Are presented in a way that they can really with it and take home their homework, which is usually a list of questions embarking on a journey to unravel that conflict, unravel that pattern, kind of like deconstruct everything.

Maria: So, after that, when they go back into that space where the whole thing started, they can, um, reframe that and become a different person. But not, they don't have to revisit the trauma. They just have to revisit the pattern. If the pattern resonates, then you don't need to learn the trauma. You don't need to go back to the moment where it happened.

Maria: You just need to understand the pattern. And then when you do that, then you are able to ask yourself certain questions that lead you to, is it really true? Is it really me? Do I need to feel this way? What if I Who would I be without this? Because there's also a lot of things that that, um, we carry as conditioning through our life

Ellen: Yeah, what's up, And um, um, hello. Well, and welcome tonight to the the American Summit. My name is Gregory James, and I'm going to be issues of concern I'm going to go ahead and start the recording, and I'm going to go ahead and start the recording.

Maria: bioenergetic testing comes in and shows you what you're ready to work on.

Maria: What your subconscious shows that. This is what your next step is for you right now. And I'm not making this up and you're not making this up. It's your subconscious showing through technology that was created to show us really where you stand and what should be your next step. whether it resonates or not, when it's presented, it's up to the person because some people say like, okay, well, I'm not ready. And that's when the fears come in. And that's, that's when the person can either decide to take a pause and leave or say, I need help. And I need some more guidance. What can you do for me? What can you, how can you help me? And that's when, when people really are vulnerable. In that sense, that's, we allow that deeper shift to happen.

Ellen: Hmm. Wow. That's really it. It just seems as though the work that you're doing with people. It's very profound and deep work because working with the subconscious with all of these emotional patterns that develop over however much time. Um, It's, yeah, it, it's significant in, in reshaping as you spoke to, um, cause I was going to ask about kind of like how you support someone in finding resolution, but that, that reframing and, um, changing the way that we are perceiving our life.

Ellen: Um, yeah, it, it's, it's significant because it changes the way that we're perceiving everything. Um,

Maria: And I really, um, I, I really feel like it has to be said that, that, uh, It was created or we were conditioned to

Ellen: Wow.

Maria: I, I know that I have to do these kinds of things.

Maria: This resonates like, let's unpack and, and, uh, and we, you know, Especially with chronic conditions, we don't feel safe in our bodies. We don't feel we don't have that kind of security that we are okay with the unknown, whatever it may bring, because we are scared. Like, okay, what if I, what if this doesn't help?

Maria: And also, a lot of people I've seen, um, came to me, like, last resort. They have spent a lot of time. Thousands and thousands of dollars they had already been on being seen by any, every practitioner there is and every kind of approach and everything that they tried, they did the reiki, reiki, they, they, the, the, the, the functional medicine.

Maria: They did everything like energy healing, everything, even if it's aligned or not aligned or same or not same. They tried it. And, um, it's very, um. It's a deeply, I deeply connect with those people because I was once in their shoes and I, I feel like when, when that connection is made, and that's why I don't see my clients as like, okay, you were just a number by the test and let's go.

Maria: And then here's your report. Like, there's a lot of bioenergetic testing, uh, Spaces that were created for that kind of thing in mind, like, okay, I do the same report for the same same person. Like, my reports are different for every person and it's not going to be there is a template, but there is not going to be. The same information on it, because it's always different for every person and that's what the beauty is for me. And then that is when you see the person and you feel the person and you connect with the person is when you allow that connection to happen and that relationship to form. For that person to feel safe and supported. And then that that trauma or that conflict is a resolution. So it's kind of like a very complex way to see it because it's not just 1 thing that, um, what I was presented with my son. Oh, it's a separation conflict. But no, it goes way deeper than that. It's complex. But at the same time, it's simple.

Maria: So if it could be complex, When you come from a place of fear and not understanding, but once somebody puts it in a very clear and concise, personalized way. Now, you have the chance to see through that complexity.

Ellen: Yeah, I, it, all the work that you share that you do with, with clients just deeply resonates and that, that feeling of safety is so important because when I imagine that it needs to be established with them when they're working with you in order for them to find it within themselves for that, you know, for that to be established first.

Ellen: Um, and yeah, I, I was reading on your practitioner listing that you specialize in skin conditions. So I'm curious if a lot of the clients that you're working with come to you with skin conditions and, and how, um, Yeah, maybe some commonalities or some, some, just some tangible, practical information that we can share with our listeners about how to approach, um, skin conditions if they're all a separation conflict.

Ellen: And I imagine that there's, you know, a variety of, of, um, presentations or conflicts that, that are involved within skin conditions.

Maria: Uh, yeah, that's that's a great, great topic to to go on. And, um, I'm very glad that you brought that up. Uh, and I do specialize in skin conditions. Uh, but I also kind of opened up my practice to work with a lot of different conditions at the same time, because when I started my practice, I was, um, um, focusing on, you know, helping people who went through, you Similar things that we did or help other families or other moms who are dealing with their Children's skin conditions.

Maria: So I I started working with families with Children who have the same issue, and that was the early days. And then when we started reaching milestones and changes with the Children, then the You know, it's everything is interconnected. So the mom started to embark on their own journey. And then I was there to help with that.

Maria: And they had no skin condition. They had different issues. They had different, um, symptoms. They had different, um, conflicts. They have different work to be done. So when that that reached a resolution, they were, you know, telling it to their friends, like, Oh, You have to go see what is going on with you. And then everything just started to really open up.

Maria: So right now, my practice is more like a, um, open to everyone kind of practice. But I do have a soft spots for skin conditions. And, um, uh, there were some cases that stood out and, uh, I feel like, um, there is the commonality is, um. Is tied to separation conflict, but the it's very abstract because we are also very abstract beings.

Maria: Like, we are the, um, um, like human, we, we biologically we react in conflict in the ways of conflicts, like animals, like other mammals, but. At the same time, we have a very complex way to understand things and perceive things, uh, as if they were a separate separation conflict. So, uh, what might be a separation conflict for 1 child is totally different conflict for another. And, uh, that's why it's so interesting to embark on this journey and really open up and untie certain ribbons and, and deconstruct everything. So, uh, while there are commonalities. Like, as I said, separation conflict in the case of eczema, sometimes I find that it's, it's, it's a little bit more than that. So, um, I have, I, I have this story or client that I was working with. So. going to put it, uh, I'm going to share it so you can have a better understanding of of how everything together and, uh, how we work, how I worked with the mom and the child at the same time. So there was, um. Um, a little girl, I mean, mom with a little girl who came to me and they were, you know, they tried everything and everything was starting to really spiral out of control.

Maria: Just like when what we went through

Ellen: I think

Maria: and

Ellen: we have a little bit of time for questions, so if you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to us.

Maria: when you dove into the story, um, I. Explained how G and M works. They weren't that much on board. But then, you know, when we really, um, when she really started to open up and shared what happened, uh, I could make it clear what what each symptom and each event brought to this. Soup of conflicts or the conflict load, they like to call it. So the little girls started when they came home from the hospital and when in the perspective, when the symptoms start to show, it's when resolution has happened. Right? So, um. What happened in this particular case that the mom had, um, a traumatic birth, they had a traumatic birth because she had her birth plan.

Maria: It didn't go as, uh, as it was planned. And, um, they had the long labor, the interventions, the pitocin, the emergency C section and everything else, uh, just really sick. Spiraled out and then, um, at birth, she wasn't able to hold the child that the child went to the NICU. And then, um, like for observation, there wasn't really anything wrong.

Maria: It's just, you know, with all the meds the other things that have happened, interventions, they had to monitor the child. So, um, breastfeeding was a struggle and her milk didn't come easy. And then she had issues with letdown. And interestingly, uh, with GNM, like I was able to present it to her that, It all ties together, like milk production, for example, that relates to a nest and worry conflict.

Maria: So, in this case, this traumatic hospital experience that brought that up, it was very unexpected, very out of the blue. It wasn't, she felt alone with it because she wasn't able to, like, really, be there in this, uh, like connect with anyone because it just all happened so fast. And then, um, it created this shock.

Maria: And then, uh, the letdown issues were tied to a separation conflict, but it wasn't coming out as a skin rash because some parts of our, some tissues, they are, uh, Connected to the ectoderm tissues, but not outside on the skin. So the milk ducts, for example, they are ectoderm tissues and they, it could be, uh, and so we, we basically discovered that it was like a bond that she wasn't able to form with the baby because of all the chaos that was surrounding them and then, um, which All led to the next conflict, which is, you know, the guilt, the shame, the, I'm not able to even feed my baby.

Maria: What is going on? The further disconnection they had to supplement with formula, formula, the helplessness, the fear of failure and, and the actual feelings of failure and the guilt and all these things, the stress, the overwhelm, adjusting to new parenthood, they didn't even know what was going on. Like there was no support that was aligned with what they believed in. And they all felt just pushed around. And then when they went home. To their safe place where they could finally regain that kind of control and regain that sense of, um, connection than symptoms started, but they weren't aware of G and M to be able to fully understand what's going on. And so they started the whole cycle of the claims, the doctors, the interventions, and, and it was just continuous trauma for everyone. Um, when they understood and I put it in a way so they can, like, relate to it. And it was more like questions and inquiry. Like, do you, does this resonate that that what do you think of that? Can you reflect on this? And then, uh, like, bringing it to a different perception. And I remember this. Uh, very vividly when that shift happened and like, Oh, my God, really like that's that's it.

Maria: I get the parent, the parents eyes. They were both on the call. The parents eyes like, Wow, wow, that really makes sense. And then they were able to create that safe space for their daughter. They were coming from a place of empowerment and understanding and calmness. of fear. And that was a critical step for them for to reach resolution.

Maria: And then, um, they weren't interfering with the healing face anymore. So it would be able to take its course and, uh, they weren't when a flare happened because it did because it had to cycle out, um, with all the phases that were or the conflicts that were suppressed, they had to, the child had to cycle it out.

Maria: So it wasn't like, Oh, one day to another, you have no eczema. It was, you know, out, but with the understanding that they gained, they were able to witness that in a different way. They were able to be there for her and not just, um, you know, frantically trying to manage the situation. So it was a very interesting and.

Maria: Moving experience when, when we were able to reach that resolution with her just from a G and M perspective. But there was also other things that we did with at the same time. That was helping them to kind of connect the old paradigm with the new 1. so with the bioenergy testing. we cover nutritional imbalances, I can tell based on what comes on the scan, uh, whether if it's a utilization issue with whether the nutrients is having some kind of a metabolic dysfunction or issue presented, uh, or if it's a physically low or physically need to be supported by diet or supplementation, because they're also 2 different things.

Maria: things. Like if it's really physically low and you need some support, then yes, supplement with certain nutrients. But I don't really believe just to throwing everything in there just for the sake of it. If you don't know whether you truly need it or not. in her case, for example, it was vitamin A and magnesium and zinc.

Maria: And that came up on her testing as physically low. So we, one was like the vitamin A, we supplemented, uh, Because it was showing that it was physically low to that level, and it's, um, the magnesium and the zinc, we kind of tied in certain things. So we, we didn't supplement. We used, um, dietary changes. And also we, um, checked what kind of healing phases she's in. So if, if she's in a conflict active phase with some conflict, there is a different nutritional requirement for that. So by that, I mean, if you are in the, uh, if you're running an endoderm program, your body will need more carbs and more fat to help the tissue recover. Whereas you are running, um, more of a, an ectoderm program.

Maria: Um, Yes, an ectoderm program or a different kind of program, you need more protein or you need more fat. And then that, with that understanding, she was able to incorporate the foods that she needed in that particular time. And not just like, oh, you need this or you need protein or you need to. It was very personalized. And we also supported some Systems that she came up with, like the small intestine and the liver that resonated for her. So I didn't come and say to the person like, Oh, her liver is really stressed or her small intestine is really stressed. And tied in in a way that these are the things that are out of balance, maybe because of everything that has happened.

Maria: She's also running some in this area. So we were able to reframe that and, and help support those. Tissues, so the absorption for certain nutrients could be more, um, optimal, and that would also result resolve some of the nutritional imbalances that she had. So it's a really different approach to come in with.

Maria: And then there's

Ellen: Um,

Maria: this, um, remedy that I make for my clients with each scan that, uh, has all the, uh, Resonating frequencies imprinted in it. Basically everything that came up on the testing is used as a frequency remedy to bring it back to the person. So it kind of helps the the body to nudge it in the right direction.

Maria: So they can up certain processes or start certain things or bring up even conflicts to the awareness awareness, certain feelings to the awareness so they could have another chance to process it. Silence.

Ellen: this can be super meaningful whenever they're, Open and receptive to, um, the insight that you offer, not only through the GNM lens, but also through, um, yeah, bioenergetic testing and, and miasmic homeopathy and just like all of the kind of toolkits are the tools in your toolkit that you have.

Ellen: And, um, yeah, recently I was talking to

Maria: Silence.

Ellen: about how

Maria: Silence.

Ellen: so conditioned,

Maria: Silence.

Ellen: with our.

Maria: Silence.

Ellen: our minds to often interrupt that healing process when the body is

Maria: Silence.

Ellen: a conflict and we have these symptoms that are arising, it's, you know, we're kind of conditioned to, to maybe

Maria: Silence.

Ellen: that in a fearful way and be like, Oh, we need to interrupt what's happening in the body because something, you know, something bad is happening because these symptoms are coming up.

Maria: Silence.

Ellen: And what I love about the reframe within German new medicine and, and really the work that you do is to, to create more understanding of why the symptoms are rising and to allow them and create the safety for them to, To take their course, to do what they need to do in order for the body to, to experience resolution.

Maria: Yeah, I mean, it, it's so true and it requires a, um, a completely, uh, A complete switch, like you flip the switch from one thing to another, where you are like, Oh, my God, my, my, my symptoms are flaring and I'm experiencing this and I'm sick or I'm that and then to a totally different side where you are coming and seeing your symptoms is, God.

Maria: Like, thank you, body. Like, this is amazing. Like, I'm, I'm so glad that my body is taking care of me and I'm so glad that I'm built this way. And this brings me to another thing where, um, that, that I, I really share with my clients and I, I, it, it starts to resonate with more and more people that you are your own healer.

Maria: I'm just here to help you guide you to that path where you can truly embody this and, and. And deal with this for the rest of your life on your own with the empowered knowledge that that this whole understanding brings to the table, because no fear has no place at the table when you understand this whole how everything ties together. And, um, that is what creates this profound shift in a lot of families. And then. I really, um, you know, have this vision for the future where a lot of mothers embody this, and then they teach it to their children. And then when they teach it to their children, it really becomes a new way of living and a new way of looking at things.

Maria: And it's, uh, it's sad sometimes to see how Uh, so many, like, 99 percent of the population is so conditioned to believe that what they are experiencing is they don't have the power and they have to look for an outside source to help them. So we're trying to, I think we are brought. Into this world, the practitioners and the people who are waking up to this new understanding, we brought, we are brought to this world to bring that shift forward and and move it forward.

Maria: So believe that everything has an answer and a solution. It's just we need the right guidance to find it.

Ellen: Totally. Yeah. Yeah. That resonates so much in, in my own work, um, in healing professions, just to support people in their empowerment. To. Yeah. Shift from that mindset of, of fear and the need for external, um, yeah, external support, external, and maybe the support. Yes. But like external sources in order for them to heal in order for them to, to, to be okay on their own.

Ellen: Um, and, and shift that to, okay, like I am empowered. I have the power. I, I can find it within myself and, It really changes the paradigm of healthcare from, you know, people going to the doctor every, you know, however often for the rest of their life, because they need to, they need a doctor to validate that their body is healthy

Maria: Right.

Ellen: doing something like work with you, where they receive so many tools and, and a reframe on whatever their circumstances in order to hopefully Yeah, exactly.

Ellen: Be empowered maybe for the rest of their life. And that is so significant.

Maria: Yeah, very significant. And I acknowledge how hard it is, though, to kind of shift that identity within us because tied to so many things. It's tied to culture. It's tied to family. It's tied to our, even our, our Upbringing our parents that it's tied to so many emotions, like, who am I if this is not my reality and to sit with that and to, like, kind of go on that journey is very, um, uncomfortable for most of us.

Maria: And I've seen a lot of people who come to me with a very holistic mindset and, uh, they've done. Their work and they, they, they believe that they are ready for it. And yet, uh, because of all these traumas that they're facing with all the journey that they went through with their health, they are, uh, you know, holding and carrying all this trauma.

Maria: pain from, uh, and shocks to with the diagnosis they received with everything that they've been told about their health all this time. And this uncertainty and chaos that surrounds the medical field or health industry, or I don't know what to say about it because it really is an industry. It's just surrounded by so much chaos that.

Maria: It's, it's like a dark alley that you have to go through to get to a place where it's like, oh, my God, there is light. There is something behind this and and to kind of go through that dark alley with all the rubbish and junk. It's, it's not really a pretty scene for most people,

Ellen: Yeah. And it just speaks to, it reminds me, I don't know if you're familiar with Joseph Campbell, but he speaks to the human. Hero's journey that, you know, each of us is on her own individual hero's journey. And anytime, you know, we watch a movie or we read a book, there, there comes a point in the story where the hero has to face something that's so painful and challenging and traumatic and chaotic.

Maria: right?

Ellen: And, um, that, that doesn't need to be the final answer because the hero will triumph in the end. And so, um, yeah, just, just hearing. Honestly, all that you've shared in our conversation, it. It instills a lot of hope in me and I can imagine for our listeners brings a lot of hope that even though they might be in the dark alley and they might be so desperate and kind of like at their wits end with whatever they're moving through that it doesn't need to have the final say and that, um, it doesn't need to be like the, the end of the story.

Maria: Yes, so true. And one of the things that was really moving for me, and I carried it from my 20s when I was on my personal development journey is that, um, I went on this quest with, um, you know, finding myself and, and, and really, like, Starting to understand who I am and, um, I followed Tony Robbins. I'm not sure if you're familiar with his work.

Maria: I followed him on his life seminars for a year and it was, uh, know, that what he said was life is happening for you, not to you. And it's so true when it comes to. I have, um, gone through all the experiences in my life, and it's it just suddenly comes to a point like, Oh, my God, I understand like that had to happen in order for me to be here and do this.

Maria: And this, the little things that had no meaning at the time they were. Such a big piece in my journey, like how I went to Germany for high school, and it was just like it had to happen for me to do what I do now. And then also, like, the parents that I had the like, everything just ties in so beautifully together.

Maria: And that's why when when wish I could or had the someone to help me realize this when, um. We were in our darkest moments with my son, uh, that that, you know, this is also happening for you. And this is not just something that that, you know, you have to go through. Like, I, I resonated with this quote the other day that said that, uh, these mountains are put here for you. So, you can show other people that, you know. It can be moved. They are not here to stop you. They are not here to create an obstacle for you. They are here because you are able to climb them. You are able to move them and you're able to move past them and then use that strength to really be who you are and who you are meant to be.

Ellen: And yeah, just directly translate to the impact that we have in the world and, and the impact that your work has in the world, like all of the, all of the circumstances of your life perfectly allowed you to be where you are and supporting people in the way that you do. And I just am so excited after, as we, you know, kind of wrap up this conversation.

Ellen: I'm just so excited to hear about the work that you do and. That it is available for people who are looking for, um, yeah, deep resolution, deep healing within themselves. And, um, yeah, I'm just so grateful that you came on the podcast and that you are a part of our collective. And I can imagine that this conversation will be really impactful for anyone who will listen.

Maria: Thank you so much for creating this space. It really is so meaningful that that you're tying these people together. And then I'm so looking forward to see what other practitioners or enthusiasts or even people who are, who have healing journeys that they want to share. They can come on this. and, and really bring it to, um, to light. It's, it's

Ellen: Yeah.

Maria: I'm so grateful that you created this space.

Ellen: Hmm. Thank you. Yeah. Any final thoughts before we close this conversation?

Maria: Um, no, I think we, we went pretty deep and I feel like we have a lot of, uh, uh, things for people to unpack and, um, Yeah, I'm just, I'm just happy to be here. And if anybody wants to embark on this journey, then they know where to find me. So, um, I'll be there in the collective, so join and

Ellen: Yes.

Maria: for, for all the things to unfold.

Maria: Okay.

Ellen: Yes. Yeah. And just to wrap up, um, if you're looking to work with Maria or learn about more of the work that she does, you can find her, um, on our website, the German new medicine collective. com. And then if you would love to interact with Maria, ask her questions, get to know her a little bit, our membership.

Ellen: Space is a great place to do that. And we have, um, space for enthusiasts, those who are new to German new medicine, who would like to learn more about it, um, who are kind of seeking to learn more information as well as. Um, practitioners who are here offering, um, work one on one work, or just offering, uh, ways to learn more about this information and empower people in their own journeys.

Ellen: So thank you so much for, um, joining us on this podcast and, um, yeah, I look forward to, to learning more with you and, um, for you to be a part of our community.

Maria: Thank you so much for having me.

Ellen: You're so welcome.